tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6285515362286864700.post3904779273165753738..comments2024-02-20T16:32:01.099+05:30Comments on The IndiAgent News Times: Torturing AfricaGmail userhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09822405411252971604noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6285515362286864700.post-74819315974693238712010-07-15T15:45:50.241+05:302010-07-15T15:45:50.241+05:30still, if she comes up with a "i have ripped ...still, if she comes up with a "i have ripped of Africa" statement... will you forgive her :PRajasekharhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13849605452743713895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6285515362286864700.post-12227183149736979942010-07-15T15:06:35.678+05:302010-07-15T15:06:35.678+05:30"Talking about Passion and Music, do you reme..."Talking about Passion and Music, do you remember that day, the last time that we saw each other, I think it was was some years back in Dhanyal's room Hyderabad, you were going through my laptop, and all the music that I had in it. And you wanted to make a copy. And I refused and refused."<br><br>Frankly, I don't remember this incident. <br><br>I do not understand the concept of royalties which give money over and over again for one single product. I am all for giving money to artistes. I do not like to hear an artist who was unfortunate enough not to get due for his work and sometimes even die in poverty. So both are something which I do not like.<br><br>I do not understand what you meant by Opensource as a floating culture. I want it to be the "in culture".<br><br>If Africa doesn't have election, then there will be people who want that. They will make sure it is done. Maybe you want that too. Maybe you will one day make it(elections in Africa) happen. I remember that there were five elections - first two, won by Mandela. Second by Mbeki and another re-election and now Zuma.<br><br>All the rest of what you have said are required by people around the world, not just Africa. That doesn't make them worse off. They don't need my sympathy. They want me to respect them. And I do.<br><br>Nothing in Shakira dancing in skimpy dress will make her obscene. Not for me.<br><br>You say that Church music distorts sayings by Jesus, and perfect example is Rock music. There again you are generalizing. You should realize that only true music stands test of time. As far as Rock music is concerned, I have heard some of the most powerful lyrics from the artists in Rock music. Even U2 is Rock musician. Now if I go on, I know you will say I am not understanding you again:) but lets put this argument at rest. There are lots of arguments and counters for all these.<br><br>I understand your need for anger as a tool to weed out the bad. I understand every statement that you make but I will only say, Shakira has done nothing to deserve a statement that she is obscene.Rajasekharhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13849605452743713895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6285515362286864700.post-10543403078716180992010-07-15T11:54:46.268+05:302010-07-15T11:54:46.268+05:30Oh I am with you in understanding but you are not ...Oh I am with you in understanding but you are not with me :D. <br><br>You write eloquently, when it is something which is passionate to you, but the same thing, I can also say about music. <br><br>Whenever you say that there is plagiarizing of songs, and I disagree, I do not mean that the song has not been covered by any other artist. If this Dominican has a previous version, then this guy also has taken it from a traditional number. A lot of inspiration is required to make a music. You take it from anywhere. It is the touch of genius which make some songs great. Nobody will believe Shakira, who is a Columbian has written a song in Afrikaan. It is absurd to believe that. As far as the second Cameroonian group, they also have taken inspiration from tradition. I guess, having said that, Shakira needs to give credit to Africa, and not the both the parties involved in our discussion.<br><br>Now as far as fooling people goes, it depends on what the people want. You cannot throw away every elected person and bring on anarchy. [I am saying only about FIFA and S.A. government. Please do not bring any other example/topic into this]. If the WC was to be held in S.A., it had to be under the aegis of FIFA. That is business. If I or you don't like business, then we can stay out, but it will not change what FIFA wants. This will happen to US also if it decides to hold WC. Please don't blame poor S.A. government, and when you do so, you are blaming thousands of people who worked hard to make this such a success. I was really proud to see the efficiency in execution of opening and closing ceremonies as well as the entire world cup. Can India say that the commonwealth games will be equally grand. I cannot say, but I will wait and hope it would be.<br><br>Again when you say about dressing style of Shakira and rape in same paragraph, you do not get me when that particular style of dressing is common in such dance forms. Do you mean to state that prostitution was rampant in South America before the Portuguese and Spanish came? They had even 'worse' dressing style. I do not wish to comment on this topic anymore. I shall stick to mucic:P<br><br>And I did not know Jesus said such a statement, and I do not (try to)understand also. But when you said that I am making judgement, may it be.. I do not even wonder why it should not be, but when you understand why I said 'do not let anger cloud your judgement' I shall be happy.Rajasekharhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13849605452743713895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6285515362286864700.post-2291420389620302492010-07-15T08:11:59.347+05:302010-07-15T08:11:59.347+05:30Though everything you have said is passionately ap...Though everything you have said is passionately approved, except going after artists, who actually really do something for people. I do not agree your views that put waka waka as a "Stolen item number" by Shakira.<br><br> The song is based on traditional number, some of the verses are taken from that. That is actually taken with approval by FIFA & S.A. who wanted to promote the world cup in a large way. If you had said about the high handedness of FIFA, then maybe it might have some truth, but still it is only hearsay.<br><br>There is nothing like it is an individual effort by Shakira and she has not claimed that also. S.A.'s top pop act, Freshlyground, though never a name in world arena, had their name made big through this song. In fact, the two ladies that dance in the back are their lead singers. They have even performed along with Shakira in the opening concert too.<br><br>Shakira has done a lot of works, at least by giving her image to works by many charities. Now this is nothing compared to what they(the west or so called developed nations) have taken from Africa. I would say, at least she does think about people less privileged.<br><br>By putting rape and dance moves in same paragraphs, you have made me say about rape, which I would rather not. Nothing to do with being prude. It is rather an issue which has many facets. I am not conversant with dance moves of Africa, but from my limited experience, I have witness first hand that there are lots of sexual overtones in the traditional dance moves. Would that count as barbaric or sexually explicit or would just be a throwback on a society where sexuality was looked upon with respect. Rape is not just about sexual provocation. The reasons for high rape in S.A. can be studied by going into ground level, and I am ignorant about that.<br><br>Anger should not cloud your judgement. I do not take sides nor judge anyone, but I do say, judge wisely.Rajasekharhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13849605452743713895noreply@blogger.com